分享贴—国内、外论坛EK信息搬运工，还在为EK在努力，你们呢？

风信子tracy

妹妹还在加油吗？？？在哪个城市，可否一起！

萌萌小空姐

加油加油↖(^ω^)↗，亲爱的

olivelc

挺欣赏你的，加油妹子！

金唐莉

竟然还有10天久解禁面了！
看接了GC，到了迪拜培训的姑娘的帖子，培训官Orientation就说，我们录用你，不是因为你美，而是因为你们性格好。

基本上那种性格好，就是感染力很强，一看你就很开心的那种吧。
而，我在三月份的时候，的确没有展现这一边。
所以吼！上星期，我就开始了我的salsa 拉丁舞课！
就是要把那种听到音乐就high的性格发挥得淋漓尽致！

跟小伙伴在倒数，虽然离解禁面还有10天，可是等EK 11月份来还是有一段时间的。
但是不怕，直接加班加到国庆，然后国庆是农历生日哟，好运来！
再来两次大姨妈，再发两次工资！

放假放10天！！
国庆回来，FASCO估计就会公布EK什么时候来了！

小伙伴跟我说
9月上海站 AD复试前会议
萌子姐说：QR10、11月份快来了，之前没来是因为合同一直没弄妥，这次来了可能会带很多人走。
EK 有三不要，招风耳不要，大脸不要，痘痘不要。

摸高212，但是还是要争取到214啊，万一他们真的提高了一点点的标准。。

有姑娘问我有点o型腿怎么办，个人的判断是觉得OK的。在2014年3月广州，他给我们放的招聘视频，日本妹子就是O型腿的。

金唐莉

啊啊啊！我写了一大堆东西怎么不见了！

金唐莉

I am crew with EK. Been here a few years. One of the biggest problems here is the crew, the new crew. In the last year we have had a huge decline in standards with regards to the new crew coming in. They are too young and think moving to Dubai is a holiday and they can fly around the world and not do any work. At the end of the day this is a job. A hard job, a very TIRING job. Some of the crew I fly with are literally just like children, need to be constantly told what to do, rude, immature, want to sit down the whole entire flight and not do ANYTHING. Not all, some are absolutely fantastic, the difference is the maturity for sure, some crew don't want to take responsibility and grow up. 'Enhance the fun experience' is how you ended your post. This is a job at the end of the day, only you can make it fun for yourself. So regarding accommodation. EK state you will be placed in company accommodation, they never make a promise to put you in the most desirable location in Dubai, SZR for example. Watch the recruitment videos online, you will see they NEVER mention where accommodation is. The accommodation you are referring to in the middle of the desert, is in the middle of no where BUT it is the highest quality accommodation we have, if you have a car its great, if not then yeah its a bit crap, but remember its paid for by the company you have no bills so can you really complain? Yes but its give and take. Salaries are NEVER withheld , sorry don't know how are why you assume this? Salary is better than cabin crew jobs in Europe, remember, this is tax free. They never withhold any salary though so please don't start spreading rumors... We work HARD. Well some of us do. Most crew are very lazy sorry to say, and don't want to do anything. We fly a lot, yearly average I flew 950 hours in one year which is around 80 a month. I guess its a lot. Some months are less maybe 60 depends if I have leave, some more can be 115 if I swap onto longer flights and want more cash. If you have a month without leave you can expect to get a roster with around 85-90 rostered hours, you can swap for less or more, up to you. Some flights are long and hard, for example Nairobi turnaround, 5 hour to Nairobi 5 hour back to Dubai with an hour or two on the ground, its a long day, depart Dubai 10:45 get back 22:45. Its legal though, UK charter airlines have even longer days flying from UK to EGYPT and back! Another horrible flight is Chennai, depart Dubai 2:45am, get back 12:15 in the afternoon, yuk I hate it but its work, not like you going to have this flight every month. Then again we also have some of the easiest flights, Muscat turnaround, 45 minutes to Muscat and one hour on the ground 45 minutes back to Dubai. Day over. Easy. Most flights are average depends on the destination, time of departure etc. If the crew are motivated its always easy, if you have lazy crew on your flight, well, god help you cos your day will be HELL and you will just want to jump out the plane. On a typical month without leave, you will get 9 days off, sometimes more, rarely less. I always stalk rosters when they come up, everyone I check gets minimum 9. You can get more though but the average is 9 I guess. You can work 7 days in a row but usually you will only have 4-5 ta in this period or for example two layovers back to back. Honestly, I get tired from the flying and some flights are really tiring (long red eye turnaround) but its easy to manage your rest before flights, which is something a lot of our crew have NO idea how to do. Its normal to find out crew have hardly slept before flights. No unions, its true, you should have known that before you joined Emirates though, try do some research on the company before joining. A the end of the day, Emirates is a fair employer, they are a business and want to make money, don't expect too much or give to much, do your job and if you don't enjoy it then your in the wrong business! Everyone likes to complain about the company, but at the end of the day, its a fair company, nothing out of this world, but its nothing short of fair.

kris7

潜水了好久看你的贴。
实用贴回帖多，心情贴就没啥人所以忍不住来回个。
觉得你真的很棒，加油喔。会一直关注你。

金唐莉

kris7 发表于 2014-9-21 10:09
潜水了好久看你的贴。
实用贴回帖多，心情贴就没啥人所以忍不住来回个。
觉得你真的很棒，加油喔。会一直 ...

这种帖子吧吧，要是飞得累了，回来再看看帖子，肯定又会继续打了鸡血一样。
谢谢你给我留言。希望你可以实现你的梦想 ：）

金唐莉

We have some absolutely useless crew, SORRY but its true, who should not be working in any customer service business, Emirates can not fire them and they honestly get away with murder. I know a some (2) people who have been fired by Emirates and it was all for legitimate reasons. We have crew who are constantly absent or calling in sick, getting really bad feedback from crew and passengers and they are still flying, so please don't believe rumors that say EK fire you for any reason, there is always a reason and honestly its usually something serious.
国外论坛上有名cc说，阿航不会怎么辞退人。她认识的只有2个人被辞退了，都是涉及法律上的原因。
虽然crew会有不断地ab,请病假，不好的评价，但是他们仍然在飞。
阿航不会随便辞退人，当真的要辞的时候，背后的原因肯定是严重的。

Actually thinking about it, its not just the new crew at fault, it can be senior crew too. With regards to new crew though, they seriously are getting younger, when I joined we had ONE 21 year old in our batch, most were between 23-28. 21 is way too young to move to a totally foreign country, especially if you have never lived overseas before. Some crew join and are instantly homesick, they have never left living with there family, I honestly think the airline should stop recruiting crew who have little or no life experience. Its draining and not fair on the rest of the crew and even themselves! Some people seriously come here and they think its going to be like vegas, pool party, clubbing, travelling the world bla bla bla. I go on a flight and its really bad to see what the crew are like SOMETIMES, fighting with the senior crew, questioning decisions they make, honestly the most annoying thing is they want to sit down and have a chat the whole flight. Its really difficult to work in a condition like that when people are not demotivated they just don't give a sh*t about what they are doing and these are crew who are fresh on the line. Senior crew can be a headacke too because some just don't care and really let the whole service slip and it really shows, they often do not follow service standards which results in crew constantly flying under different service styles and saying 'oh this SFS (in charge of cabin econamy or business class) did this different to you so you are wrong etc' and it really causes a headacke!.
这一段生活的是太过年轻的crew在飞的时候，经常挑战资深cc。
以为搬到国外就是拉斯维加斯，派对呀，自我意识很强啊。我觉得这一段。。在中国cc身上还是问题不大的。
跟他们比，中国人干事就是利索，不偷懒。

Life in Dubai is not comparable to anywhere else or any other city. I sometimes love Dubai, sometimes hate it, its HOT and I mean HOT as hell, like you have opened an oven and the heat has hit your face, for around 4 months of the year (may-September) and the rest of the year is nice like 25-35 degrees centigrade, but some people get totally fed up with seeing constant sunshine everyday when they are in Dubai, weird but true. I do enjoy my life here though.
天气：每天就是热热热。像开了火炉一样，一年大概四个月（5-9月）就是超级热！

To all the new crew joining soon, some tips. Life is what you make it and life is short so enjoy everyday, you can do anything you want to do. If you hate Dubai and the job just go home, but make an effort to adjust and try and enjoy the job, its hard work but wow its so rewarding at the end of the day, you get a whole wealth of experience which is valuable to you for the rest of your life! Dubai is what YOU make it. Socialize and make friends. Everyone is in the same boat, so make friends, stay positive and be happy, if you have great friends, it doesn't matter where you are you will have a fabulous time. Don't take the job too seriously, its just a job, go to work smile try and enjoy your flight and come home and forget all about it, every flight is different. If you are from the UK or Europe and really home sick, remember you can easily go home on even four days off in a row, try and grow with this experience cos you cant live at home with mum and dad forever! Easy to get UK layovers!

DONT CALL IN SICK UNLESS YOU ARE SICK. Some people call in sick for the same flights all the time. Your manager is not an idiot, they will know if you constantly call in for the same flight that you are in 'I don't care mode'. People call in sick way too often and I am sure majority are not relate to any actual sickness!

Honestly sometimes I understand why Management treats everyone like kids, its because some crew are just crazy with regards to some things.

Some of the problems EK crew complain about the most is:
EK CC大概会抱怨的清单

1 Not enough rest onboard For example: 7 hour Heathrow flight, two services, you can honestly be working the whole damn flight. Especially if you have a dysfunctional SFS (in charge of the cabin) and lazy crew. Crew then complain 'oh but I need a break now its legally required'. Ok yeah this is a hell flight and everything is going wrong but unfortinalty we can not just stop doing our job because we are meant to have a break. If a doctor is in an ER and has non stop patients to treat, he wont just say 'break time' when people are dying. Ok obviously people wont die if they don't get a drink or meals served to them etc but you should take responsibility and give and take, SOMETIMES situations occur when you have to work extra hard and its called give and take. All jobs are like that.
1、飞行时间无足够时间休息
例子：7小时的希斯罗，2个服务，一个航班下来，没办法休息！有时是你有一个不正常的乘务长还有懒的cc。
她们会喊：在法律上，我需要休息啊。
在急救室里，医生要不断地接病人，当病人快要死的时候，他不能说我现在要休息了啊。
哈哈哈哈哈，好好笑的例子。

2 Never get the flights they want: The flights the majority of crew want are, LA, Seattle, Nice, Barcelona, Geneva, Stockholm, Luanda. They compromise 6/7 flights a day out of 200 on average. I am sure these are the flights that are most sought after. Realistically you wont get these flights unless you are in a top bid group. We have seven rotational bid groups for our crew btw, so bottom bid group ie 1-4 bid smart and you can get nice flights but be realistic and don't be over confident, top two if you know how to bid and are smart, you can get what you want. Obviously this is just an example but hope it explains it. Also people ALWAYS complain about turnarounds, ok they are about 35% of all our flights. Honestly they are not bad at all, and trust me Give me an Amman turnaround or Mumbai any day over most layover because at least I get to come back to my bed and have no jetlag. I find turnarounds as long as they are not too long (Chennai, Beirut, Istanbul etc are the long ones) can help balance you out. Some crew swap them all for layover and end up with way way way too many hours and then are absolutely dead and say the company makes them fly too much...

3 Layovers too short: You can judge this, as a rule they are all 24 hours. Some are more like 30 hours or 36 depending on the flight schedule. Long flights (LAX, SFO, SEA, DFW, IAH) are 48 hours. Luanda is 48/72 hour layover. Some are shorter than 24 hours like Seychelles, its 15 hours or 18 hours and twice a week we have 24 hour layover  some people hate it as its too short, but its a 4 hour flight there and back so its easy for me. One of our Manila flights is 18 hour layover. Its a 8 hour flight, layover and then 9 hour flight back. I have not operated this flight but honestly its a good flight BECAUSE 18 hours is enough to REST, infact its perfect, gives you time for Dinner relax, sleep, wake up , breakfast and then you can fly back to Dubai. Also its good hours for a two day trip. These are the only short layovers under 24 hours that I can think of...

Anyway guys, enough from me. If anyone has any questions please fire back. To new crew, research Dubai before you come. Its not strict like they make out in the media, you can wear the same clothes you do in UK for example, just try and remember this is a Muslim country so try dress respectable, but once you get here you will see that doesn't really wash with many people haha. Its hot, it is a lot of fun with the right people. If you like to party this is a nice place for you. If you are only into arts and culture , you will hate it. I like cultural stuff but its not my only preoccupation so maybe that's how I survived. Be prepared to work in a huge multicultural company with people from all over the world, you have to adjust to work in that kind of environment and learn cultural differences!

金唐莉

还有5天就解禁面！真的吗？！
真的吗？！？！

那种被取消参赛资格，到重获参赛资格的感觉是怎么样的呢？